20. AI: To Bot or Not?

In this tech-infused episode of 2 Girls in the Market, Amber and Bekah dive into the ever-evolving world of artificial intelligence. From navigating its practical applications in real estate to its surprising role in modern dating, they explore how AI has become a tool for creativity, connection, and productivity. Bekah shares how she’s fine-tuned AI for video scripting and meal planning (winning a chili cookoff, no less!), while Amber hilariously reveals how ChatGPT has transformed her approach to dating dilemmas and communication. Together, they tackle AI’s biases, ethical implications, and its potential to reshape industries—reminding us that the human touch still reigns supreme.

Highlights:

• The rise of AI in real estate and content creation
• Amber’s AI-powered dating coach (complete with custom profiles!)
• Ethical concerns and gender biases in AI development
• Practical tips for leveraging AI without losing authenticity

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Transcript

20. To Bot or Not?

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Rebekah Daniels: Meryl Streep. Let's be real.

Amber Haley: She's amazing. I know truly it's like all the camera Technology got like better and better and then even like the photo editing style like remember in the heyday of instagram Like even the grainy edit came back on trend. I'm like, i'm so glad that we have all these really nice cameras and lenses so that we can have a grainy edit anyway

Rebekah Daniels: Or like the, the camcorder style and recording with film and taking photos with film has really come back into play for weddings and other events. Everyone just wants to have this analog approach in this very digital world that we're living in. 

Amber Haley: It's so true. We like love the nostalgia of [00:01:00] it. I think one of the best parts of being our age and our generation is that we are Truly the only generation that is both analog and digital and I think that's why we're the smartest.

Rebekah Daniels: Obviously. Like we know how to operate all the technologies. I'm so sorry, Gen Z. You just wish you could be like us.

Amber Haley: Yeah, and you know what we're a little bit more in the know than Gen X and definitely the boomers, like, nothing against our parents generation, I do think it makes us a little bit more capable of being able to, discern stuff in the world because we can go both digital and analog, like, we both know, the media, the digital media, but, like, we're also capable of, reading a newspaper if we needed to or like I just think it helps us decipher the world Yeah, we can decipher the world like a little bit better than somebody who's just all analog or all digital

Rebekah Daniels: Yeah, I would agree with that. Do you also play tech support for your parents?

Amber Haley: Yeah, kind of but like I give up pretty fast on that and [00:02:00] just play dumb because I just I don't have the patience for it To be honest, but I think people really need to layoff millennials and I know that i'm like barely a millennial I'm, like an elder millennial, but Avocado Toast is great, first of all, and we're a scrappy generation that's, like, never really had it easy in this world.

Like, we've kind of hit, like, all the hard times times 

Rebekah Daniels: in historY.

listen, I know how to operate a fax machine and scan and fax, think fax, the digital fax from my phone so I can do all the scanning. I can use a rotary phone and I can use a cell phone. 

Amber Haley: Our audience is gonna be like, what's a fax machine and a rotary phone? Maybe we should edit this out, like who? We gotta check our demographics again, because we love you guys! By the way, we love you Gen Z, This, like, what she's saying is so sus, I don't even know her. Wow, but yeah our TicTak fanbase.

Rebekah Daniels: did I say, did I just say TicTak? 

Gosh, [00:03:00] TicTok fan base 

Amber Haley: the way,

Rebekah Daniels: is going to

Amber Haley: we are on We are on TikTok, and as it has been pointed out both publicly and privately, I, so as of right now, I am the, running our TikTok department, and it is not going great, but follow us on TikTok, and we will do better, okay?

It's only gonna get better, get in now and watch us rise, 

Rebekah Daniels: in on

Amber Haley: we're.

Rebekah Daniels: level. 

Amber Haley: This is kind of applicable to our episode today. So everybody welcome to two girls in the market. I'm Amber Haley

Rebekah Daniels: And I'm Rebekah Daniels and I'm coming to you from the Pacific Northwest and Haley is coming from the big Island of Hawaii.

Amber Haley: That's right, we're waving across the ocean to each other and We here at two girls in the market We are millennials. We will say that. We'll give you that much information. We do love technology here. Like, the girls are a big fan of technology.

We 

Rebekah Daniels: wouldn't be able to do this without technology because we are [00:04:00] not in the same space. This is all over the internet.

Amber Haley: Yes. And we have jumped on board with it. I want to tell everybody why I'm so on board with technology, even though I'm not the most tech savvy person, as has been pointed out on this podcast.

Rebekah Daniels: true.

Amber Haley: At least I can tolerate gluten in my body. But, but, I am not the most tech savvy person, but I do try and be, because I think it's really important in the business world, to be quite honest, and I think if you don't try and adopt technologies, like AI, which we're gonna be talking about today, you're gonna get left behind.

Rebekah Daniels: You are, and mean, technology in our, in our industry, the real estate industry has caused so many changes in how we do business. You know, looking

Amber Haley: Mm hmm.

Rebekah Daniels: the eighties, they had listing books. And that's where you had all of your listings to now we have all of these websites that host all the [00:05:00] listings, whether it's for sale by owner or broker supported listings, and just like, we're able to get into houses with technology.

There are, home sellers, home selling companies, like open door. Is that what you would call them? A home selling company? Yeah.

Amber Haley: Oh no, I'm not going to say the right tech term and I'm just going to lose all credibility here. Like on iBuyer type stuff?

Kind 

Rebekah Daniels: of like an iBuyer they'll buy a house and then they let you into the house via technology. You don't even need a person to get you in there. So just from my time in the industry in the last 10 years, I have seen so many changes that have come about because of tech. And if you're not keeping up with that technology, you're going to be left behind and you are not going to be able to service your clients to the Best of your, well, it may be the best of your ability, but it's not what they deserve. And

Amber Haley: Yeah, absolutely.

Rebekah Daniels: right there is like, if your clients are not getting the best [00:06:00] service that they deserve, then you have failed them.

Amber Haley: Honestly, whether you're a real estate agent or in any industry right now, I don't think there's any industry right now that wouldn't benefit from the use of, innovation and technology in business. And if you are not in any business, if you just are a girl in a market, and it might not be the business market, we're gonna talk about some ways that AI might help you too.

So.

Rebekah Daniels: Also disclaimer, we don't know all the proper tech terms. We are not tech geeks. We love technology. We use it. We will not use the correct terms. So just.

Amber Haley: yes, just, you, relax, give, You know, I mean, judge away if you're gonna give us engagement on social media, You know, judge us a little bit in the comments, but like, don't judge us too, and,

Rebekah Daniels: the terms that we got incorrect in the comments, please. Thank you.

Amber Haley: Also, that's just like a general disclaimer for the podcast, okay?

Rebekah Daniels: True.

Amber Haley: we're not,

Rebekah Daniels: check us in the comments. Cause we [00:07:00] don't fact check ourselves. 

Amber Haley: So we're talking about, , something we have been wanting to talk about for, I would say at least a month. We've been so excited for this episode because we are talking about artificial intelligence. And I started first experimenting with AI pretty early on when I first heard about ChatGPT. How about you?

Rebekah Daniels: Yeah, I would say probably when I, uh, I may have taken like two weeks before jumping on it. Cause sometimes I like to wait and see what's happening with tech and I'm like, uh, Is this worth the hype or am I just going to get into it and be annoyed? Like when threads came out on Instagram

Amber Haley: Mm hmm.

Rebekah Daniels: you have to get the app.

And I was like, well, I don't want to be left behind. And then I got on it for like two days and I was like, I'm over this. So that's

Amber Haley: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Rebekah Daniels: that I get over things pretty quickly. So I don't always jump on the hype bandwagon right away. I sometimes wait to see. So I waited like two weeks before getting into [00:08:00] ChatGPT.

Amber Haley: I remember when Threads came out, I had like an anger level about it. I was like, are you kidding me? I cannot do one more thing. Like, I just can't.

Rebekah Daniels: I

Amber Haley: So I'm kind of glad, like, low key, that it doesn't seem to have really taken off.

Rebekah Daniels: the people who are on it are like dedicated to it, but I don't

Amber Haley: Oh.

Rebekah Daniels: growing. Instagram keeps trying to shove it in my face whenever I'm on the feed.

Amber Haley: Huh.

Rebekah Daniels: look at all these threads. And I'm like, I don't want to redownload the So no.

Amber Haley: well, so yeah, I understand the hesitation when I first heard about like AI and ChatGPT, I was hesitant. Truly, I was alarmed by it, because I think that there are a lot of alarming things about artificial intelligence. But I think I'm a smart woman. And I knew if I didn't get on board with the train, I was gonna be left behind in the business world.

So I was an early adopter, even though I'm Pretty novice compared to the experts in AI, obviously. But I think what I lack in expertise, I make up for with [00:09:00] creativity and enthusiasm and like really seeing the potential for it all and knowing that I need to stay on with it.

Cause it's changing so fast. Right? Like,

Rebekah Daniels: I mean, just how long has it been around a year at this

Amber Haley: I think, I think longer than that. That's so you would think we would have looked that up for this episode,

Rebekah Daniels: We're not

Amber Haley: but

Rebekah Daniels: you correct

Amber Haley: this

Rebekah Daniels: This is just our opinions.

Amber Haley: We're here to be a vibe.

Rebekah Daniels: This, yeah, you come for, you're just here for a vibe, not for actual education.

Amber Haley: Yeah. But, I gotta be honest, at this point in my life, I can't imagine living without AI.

Rebekah Daniels: I

Amber Haley: I absolutely,

Rebekah Daniels: single day.

Amber Haley: absolutely love it. When I started to really learn the power of like of harnessing it in a really like customized way to my business in like mind was like constantly blown. So if haven't kind of experimented with AI and this.

Like, I'm going to challenge you just like experiment with it a little bit, [00:10:00] because it's not going to go anywhere. It's out of the box. 

Rebekah Daniels: it's not going anywhere. I feel like it's just becoming more and more integrated into our lives. And so ChatGPT, I think. it more common for your everyday person, but there was artificial intelligence and other technology before ChatGPT. I remember I was using it for video editing in the past with some different platforms where they would help take out your ahs and ums, you know, it's text based, other things would put together your pictures and videos into this automated. video edit that you could then kind of tweak and customize it, but it's a lot of video editing done for you. And this was

like 

Amber Haley: Mm hmm. 

Rebekah Daniels: years ago, six plus years ago that I was using that. So now it's, 

Amber Haley: Oh, 

Rebekah Daniels: been around for a while. This is not new, new technology. It's just become more common 

Amber Haley: Yes. 

Rebekah Daniels: [00:11:00] this 

Amber Haley: think it's advancing rapidly.

Rebekah Daniels: Oh,

insanely. was really, really proud of myself. Like. Very early on with ChatGPT and then, you know, upgrading to the premium version of it and, like, creating, custom, like, GPTs. Did you do any of that? Have you done that?

pay for a ChatGPT. Again, I use this every single day. I have the custom GPTs. It's helped me a lot with video scripting because I 

Amber Haley: Mm hmm. 

Rebekah Daniels: I don't know. I get, I get up in my head about a lot of things and it's just, you don't always have time. So I created a custom GPT based off of other video scripts and things that I've written and including transcripts from our podcast so that ChatGPT could learn how I speak and how I write. And then it was able to create a custom GPT in my voice. And then I can put in different articles or. Whatever [00:12:00] it is that I'm wanting to talk about, it could be a topic. And I say, all right, write me a script on this. That's in my voice and my vibe. And then I just go back in and I kind of , tweak it, but it's been super helpful in just cutting down that time, that prep time of getting it, the things that get in the way of me actually recording a video, which is 

Amber Haley: Oh, it's and probably biggest uses, I'm guessing that you and I both have for it is content creation. So, you know, if you're not somebody who does a lot of like marketing in your day to day life, like Bekah and I like, example, like I have a YouTube channel and Bekah has a YouTube channel and we do social media.

So we have a need for like scripting and drafting things. And if you guys have no idea what um, ChatGPT, like a custom GPT like, basically this like specialized version of original, mean, like, I'm not a tech person. Remember the like AI model that was like developed [00:13:00] by open AI and then you tailor So you like create it to address specific needs or tasks that you like a certain application. uh, one thing that I did. creating a custom GPT was like, like cloned like a digital version of myself, um, to answer questions like about buying homes and real estate on the big island.

And then I put that GPT publicly in the ChatGPT marketplace for people to find.

Rebekah Daniels: Whoa,

Amber Haley: was like, this is so cool. I don't know anybody uh, I think I did that like earlier this year and then I obviously to like direct You know potential to me like I told it my contact information So it was like if you to talk to like a flesh and blood person Contact the best realtor.

No, I didn't say that but I probably did actually, uh, Contact amber haley. Here's her contact information and uh, that was like really fun and that was probably like the first cool thing I did where I was like, Okay, so I can take this technology and [00:14:00] me, little ol me, can create, like, specific uses for it.

So, that's what we're talking about when we saying, we have these, like, custom GPTs, if you have no idea. Cause I would say, the vast majority of people, and probably the vast majority of our listeners are like, 

Rebekah Daniels: is that? 

Amber Haley: heh.

heh. simplify that a little bit more, it's whenever you type into ChatGPT, you're writing out a prompt and then it's answering your question based off of that prompt. And so when you're create this customized GPT, Basically taking that initial prompt and just applying that to everything that you send it instead of you having to retype it every single time. I think

Rebekah Daniels: that's a probably 

Amber Haley: Yeah. 

Rebekah Daniels: good everyday answer for it.

Amber Haley: um, custom, like, AI applications can do, like, anything you really, like, imagine. It's pretty cool. And obviously, like, learn uh, at the more that you interact with them. So, I quickly started using like, like, digital media and [00:15:00] editing and content creation.

And now I have a calendar that's run by AI and that's been fun to experiment with. And I'm there's, like, even more ways, like, that I could be using AI. And tell you, like, like, applications I tried it were kind of, like, fails for me. I don't know if you have any of these to share.

But I was like, what am I not good at in life? Like I just realized I could clone myself for real estate. else like 

Rebekah Daniels: Hmm. 

Amber Haley: in just my life, which don't I know there's a lot of things everyone. Okay, but

Rebekah Daniels: does 

Amber Haley: do we begin with this? But I started thinking okay.

I'm really bad at cooking. Just like food in general meal planning. Like I don't know what people what do people eat? Like, I don't know so You I tried like, hey, what are some ideas that, you know, dinner tonight? And it would be like spit out like lobster risotto. And I was like, okay, first of all, GPT I have two eggs and half a bag of tortilla chips and I don't [00:16:00] eat seafood like Ugh No, this is not like a quickfire challenge.

Like I'm not making lobster risotto. So I got kind of that Going that route like and then This is kind of why I wanted to do this episode I was sitting home alone On Friday night, my two eggs and my half a bag of tortilla chips. I was, It was probably like, just my You know, Friday night, what do I do about this situationship implosion I'm having at 2 a. m.,

and am like, alone, who, I don't, text my, they're probably sleeping, they're probably so sick of hearing about this Situationship with this guy, we'll call this guy Freddy. I don't know which one it was, I have actually no idea, it doesn't we don't need to talk about timelines, this isn't recent history.

We'll call him Freddy, and I was like, okay, you know what? Bekah's not available, my other friends aren't available, and also, I don't want to annoy them. So then I started asking ChatGPT some questions. I was like, hey, [00:17:00] so, uh, I need some dating advice. And then, I remember I, are we telling , am I gonna tell, yep, okay. So, so, there is this one guy, and I was like truly trying to make it work with him, I wanted this to be a thing. Bekah, hopefully you can relate. 

Like, you know when you're, like, at the early dating stages with a guy. For me, it's like this is amazing. This could be, like, the greatest love story ever told. And then it's usually, like, the three to six month mark. You realize Oh, what's that saying? Like, men are from Mars, women are from Venus, or whatever that book I don't know if that's like a book title.

Maybe it's like a toxic book. I don't know. Don't come for me. But where you are like, oh, we are from different planets! I thought we were like this, and we are like this, and I just don't understand them.

Rebekah Daniels: just

three Month mark that three 

Amber Haley: to 

Rebekah Daniels: Month mark. It's pretty typical for couples to have that realization in their Dating thing of [00:18:00] like after three 

Rebekah Daniels: Typically when really do start to see who they are. They're not putting that best foot forward as much anymore.

And you're getting into those deeper, more serious talks. So that typically is when people start to feel division or distance or conflict and like the honeymoon phase is kind of worn off. So that's normal. So don't feel like that's like a crazy thing that just happens to you. That is. Pretty standard.

You're not alone in that.

Amber Haley: See, everyone, that's normal. That's why I go to Bekah oftentimes. But on a Friday night at 2 a. m, you know, I'm not gonna annoy Bekah over my situationship!

Rebekah Daniels: at that time.

Amber Haley: She definitely is. So I go to ChatGPT, right? Okay, so we're hitting that wall. Okay, we're on different planets. I like to talk things out.

I like to communicate a ton. I like to make a plan. This guy just doesn't. I think a of men are like really analytical. And they think in black and white. And as a woman, like, tend to be emotional.

And I see the world in 50 shades of grey and speak in a lot of nuance. And so that's a barrier a lot with dating men. I literally started putting into [00:19:00] ChatGPT. I was like, This is what I'm trying to say to this guy and I'm realizing this is how he thinks different than me. 

Like, How can I communicate it? And they would like spit out a bunch and I was no, I need like bullet points. This makes me seem a little nuts, huh? But I mean, like you should be honored if I'm ChatGPTing about you, that's how much I'm trying to make it work. 

Rebekah Daniels: know, it's so funny because I just saw a video today About a Reddit post. It was on the, am I the asshole forum on Reddit. And this guy is like, am I the asshole for asking my girlfriend to stop using ChatGPT in our arguments? And so 

Amber Haley: This is a part of daily life for everyone now.

Rebekah Daniels: it's, it's happening folks. So she apparently would be going. They would have an argument. She would go into ChatGPT and type [00:20:00] up the whole argument that they had. And then ChatGPT would respond to him and be like, you're insecure. You're this, like you, it was like basically analyzing him. And he's like, this really isn't fair. He's like, I don't remember all the things that were said. I'm having to argue with the computer, not with a human being. And I feel like, you know, she's giving it a biased input. And so that's why it's saying all these different things. He's like, so am I the asshole for asking her to stop doing that?

Amber Haley: It's causing relationship drama. 

Rebekah Daniels: comments, people 

Amber Haley: I mean, 

Rebekah Daniels: should just put your side into ChatGPT and that it's just chat going against

chat.

Amber Haley: They should make a joint custom GPT is what they should do so that it's not like super biased one way or the other. This is what I think.

That's the call I'm getting.

Rebekah Daniels: of chat BT jet, can we just call it chat? 

Just 

Amber Haley: call it Chat G. Chat G.

Rebekah Daniels: the

Amber Haley: I like that. 

Rebekah Daniels: of chat G and change [00:21:00] approved. I'm calling it this and just have it act as our therapist. And then you guys just talk back and forth and see what happens. 

Amber Haley: it's getting so much easier, and I don't have these yet, but I was just gifted a pair of, AI glasses. So pretty soon I'm just gonna be like walking around, just like talking, yeah, yeah. 

Rebekah Daniels: cool sunglasses and they just like record things.

Amber Haley: Yeah, so, you know, the journey will continue but AI's evolving rapidly and also the story does get a little deeper, Bekah with my, with my journey with dating and GPT. So, everyone's shocked to hear it didn't work out with Freddie, okay?

Rebekah Daniels: Freddie's 

Amber Haley: R. I. P. But I realized whoa, I can really do a little bit more with ChatGPT than I thought as far as like the dating market goes.

So I continued down this path, um, Can't believe I, yeah here we go. So I'm dating like maybe multiple people, let's say. And I [00:22:00] start, thank you, the roster. So we have the roster, and so I start using ChatGPT with different people.

But then I'm realizing it's quite tedious. It's becoming quite tedious to explain to Chat G. Like, no, I'm not talking about Freddie anymore, I'm talking about Chad, and I'm talking about Billy, and I'm talking about Bobby. 

Rebekah Daniels: people with

different 

Amber Haley: Okay Different situations. They live in different places. They have different personalities.

They do different things. Like I need different advice So I was like this, okay, we can work with this. So then I 

Rebekah Daniels: Did you create another GPT? Oh my goodness.

Amber Haley: I created a gpt and I was like, okay everybody who gets a slot on the roster, their bio is going in the gpt 

Rebekah Daniels: I actually love this. This is amazing. 

I

Amber Haley: because, 

Rebekah Daniels: I cannot believe that you have waited this long to tell me all of this. Like, why was 

Amber Haley: this has been going on,[00:23:00] 

Rebekah Daniels: I feel like you've been

holding things 

Amber Haley: it,

Rebekah Daniels: Uh this makes me, I think this will become more socially acceptable, but I was doing this when it was like the early phases of if you were meeting someone on match. com or a dating app before that was the norm, and there were people who were like, What's wrong with them?

Amber Haley: That, I was doing it in the what's wrong with people who meet their partner on match. com era of AI. I was doing this. It started to tell me like, we can only remember things from this conversation. I was like, that's not good enough. I need to be able to, on a dime, be like, this, Bobby this what and I need you to keep up with the roster So yeah, so you come on the roster you got programmed into the gpt.

I told it I gave it sample text messages personality types Job descriptions where you live what my biggest issues were, everything I could I would like program in and so that it would give me a very Customized response and I was like, oh my gosh. I have a life dating coach. This is amazing You I [00:24:00] mean, kind of.

Like, the group chats did slow down. The girl group chats. Yeah.

Rebekah Daniels: don't know. I, I had no idea. I had no idea that all of this is going on. I was like, maybe she's just talking to other people about this. did I know you were talking to AI 

Amber Haley: was.

Rebekah Daniels: it all.

Amber Haley: I was. And one of the big struggles I had was like, this dating coach is my everything. Like, I need to give it a name. But then I got hung up on that because I was like,

I, I was gonna name it a female name, like, like Bekah, but, Then I was like, no, because there's so, there's actually a lot of gender bias with AI, you know, and I have to fight the patriarchy on this, like, if you think about it, Alexa, Siri, predominantly female voices, and if you think about it, Siri and Alexa they will always respond back Chipper and they do subservient roles. I know you can change it to a male voice, I know that, but that's not the marketed 

Rebekah Daniels: true. My Siri is an 

Amber Haley: stream. 

Rebekah Daniels: man, so.

Amber Haley: I love that. I love that. I [00:25:00] actually haven't changed my Siri, so I'm totally being a hypocrite here. But, but I was like, I'm not gonna have it be a woman, but then I was like, I don't feel like I can have a male name either, because like, how are you gonna help me? Like, a man? Like, what am I gonna get from you? You have been conditioned by the patriarchy, 

Rebekah Daniels: are. the

Amber Haley: like, You are. But then I was like, but I do also need your input. So then I just kept it Amber's dating coach. don't tell me you're gender. It has no gender. So, uh, I do have that. But here's like another tricky thing is I do love talking about AI so much as you can tell.

But then I will like show people how to use chat GPT and I have to remember like Amber you have a lot of embarrassing GPTs that you need to go hide first. Cause if one of those guys on the roster Logs onto my computer and sees that I have A dating coach program with their bio, like 

Rebekah Daniels: one, never let them in that you're dating onto any of your devices.

Amber Haley: Yeah, or podcast, probably

Rebekah Daniels: [00:26:00] required listening.

Amber Haley: I mean, up until this episode Honestly, I think they say they listen and they don't listen Are you listening right now?

Rebekah Daniels: As

long as they listen to 

Amber Haley: how can I 

Rebekah Daniels: one. I'm like, you should listen to like at least one to three to give you a good idea of what you're getting. And you're either here for it or you're not. Just filter yourselves out.

Amber Haley: Definitely. So, you know, those are my secrets that I, I am embarrassed to share. For sure, that's embarrassing to share. But also, I think this is really valuable and I think other people can use this. So that's like my practical tip for you if you are in the dating market and you are having any kind of dating problems or just having communication problems with anyone in your life .

 There is a lot of value there, but obviously we do have to be careful with AI, too.

Rebekah Daniels: Amber. I've used 

Amber Haley: Thank you. 

Rebekah Daniels: to compose text responses to you.

Amber Haley: Oh, uh, you're allowed to do that. I've used it to, explain certain things [00:27:00] about the way that I am as a person to people who can't understand. I've even screenshotted that and sent it to people that I'm close with to be like, I'm having a hard time communicating this

Rebekah Daniels: those 

Amber Haley: and this is what I, need. 

Rebekah Daniels: I take that info and I'm like, Hey, help me compose a response to this person that we'll

meet 

Amber Haley: Yeah,

Rebekah Daniels: they're 

Amber Haley: think if you can do it with authenticity. I mean I would be offended if you're hitting a button, you know There's like ai prompts for getting more and more you just hit a button and there's no thought and you just give whatever reply But that's not what you're doing. i've also done things like. That Like, I love witty banter with people. So I have tried to use it and, it doesn't have the banter and the personality. It'll probably get there. 

Rebekah Daniels: tries, it, it does, uh, I actually had ChatGPT roast my dating profile right before we started 

Amber Haley: Oh,

Rebekah Daniels: I was 

Amber Haley: that's fun. Are you gonna share with the class? 

Rebekah Daniels: told it to be meaner and I was like, is that all you got? And it like, even its last response wasn't [00:28:00] like it tries. It tried so hard to roast me, but you know, all right.

 I said, is that the best you've got? And I said, all right, buckle up. Your profile is the dating app equivalent of a thrift store clearance rack. There are pieces here, but none of them match and no one's sure why they're together. The Jesus is Lord line feels less like a preference and more like an ultimatum scrawled on a Chick fil a napkin. That blurry sunglasses video, I've seen Bigfoot pictures with better resolution. The hiking pic. Cute, but it screams, look at me pretending to like dirt for Instagram clout. Your, I don't think I've even posted that picture publicly. Your best friend photo is less quirky, fun, and more. I'll always have a third wheel on our dates and don't get me started on the mirror selfie.

It's giving, I sell essential oils in my spare time. 

Amber Haley: MLM vibes.

Rebekah Daniels: got great raw material, but right now it's chaotic. Try hard [00:29:00] energy wrapped in an REI membership. Pull yourself together, Rebekah. This is war, not recess. 

Amber Haley: It is war.

Rebekah Daniels: you, 

Amber Haley: It is war.

We are going to battle

Rebekah Daniels: here. 

Amber Haley: dating apps. That's hilarious. I love that. I hope that everybody listening immediately today, if you are on a dating app, please go ask ChatGPT, chat G, excuse me, to go roast your dating profile and then please screenshot it and tag us in it, please,

Rebekah Daniels: I

will 

Amber Haley: at TwoGirlsOnTheMarket. 

Rebekah Daniels: It gave me, so it originally gave me an overall roast. I was like, this is not mean enough. And so it said your profile is solid, but feels like it's trying to do too much. It's like a dating app variety pack, faith, fun, nature, work, and quirky. And I'm like, yeah, that's me. While variety is good, it's not cohesive.

Make your photos work together to tell a story about you, a faith driven, adventurous, fun loving woman. Streamline the message and you'll attract someone who [00:30:00] really gets it. 

Amber Haley: I mean, okay, GPT, chat G, I hear you, but like, Bekah is over here in the trenches of battle, GPT ing, putting time and thought into her dating profile, I'm over here in the trenches of battle, GPT ing how best to respond to you because you don't go to therapy, Um, so you could take it a little easy on us, chat G, like, we're putting in

Rebekah Daniels: we

Amber Haley: the work here. 

Rebekah Daniels: recess. No one 

Amber Haley: Okay. 

Rebekah Daniels: games here.

Amber Haley: Also, like, you should be so lucky to get this kind of chaos. 

Rebekah Daniels: I think it's important that people see the chaos that they are in for.

Otherwise they'd be like, 

Amber Haley: absolutely.

Rebekah Daniels: person. I thought you were just kind of one way. And I'm like, no, I'm all, all of the ways. 

Amber Haley: I would

really like, I'd be curious to go on a guy's dating profile, like, log in and see what all the women's profiles look like. I wonder, I'm sure [00:31:00] we have a lot of similarities, but, like, with men, when I look at their dating profiles, it's like, same, same, same, same, same.

And I feel like you're putting an effort to Bring all of these, you know, as we call it in marketing, like your content buckets, you know, where you're like, I'm outdoorsy. I have, um, this is what my faith is. These are my friends, like, okay, like that's what we want to see about somebody, I hear this is a thing where AI can also not only roast you, but like actually help you with your profile too. They're taking our job away as potential dating profile consultants, but whatever. AI's taking our jobs.

Rebekah Daniels: of course it is. They took our jobs. That's a South Park reference. For those who've watched. Anyways, so I also use AI not only to roast me, my Instagram profile and my dating

profile. 

Amber Haley: Mm hmm. 

Rebekah Daniels: fun. I always laugh at it and giggle. but I also use it a lot for brainstorming and it's almost like it's [00:32:00] become my new Google. Like I don't, I don't really 

Amber Haley: Oh,

Rebekah Daniels: To ChatGPT to bring in all of the Google resources For me, instead of me having to go scan through all the links, try to figure out what's a sponsored post, what's an ad, and I think Google has realized this because they created their own Google 

Amber Haley: Mm hmm.

Rebekah Daniels: it was barred. now it's Gemini, I 

Amber Haley: Gemini.

Rebekah Daniels: And 

Amber Haley: Yeah.

Rebekah Daniels: that one so much. I just, I like ChatGPT. It's, it's my best, but I'm used to it. I feel like the results are a little bit better, but it depends on what you're looking for.

Amber Haley: I'm mostly like a ChatG person, but I think it's great for that kind of use, like a lot of brainstorming and 

Rebekah Daniels: give me a review of this thing that I've written or give me feedback. is 

Amber Haley: Mm hmm.

Rebekah Daniels: audience, this is the message I'm trying to get across. Is this going to be received that way? Especially if it's a more controversial topic, I [00:33:00] kind of want to know, this going to land or is it going to unintentionally offend?

Because I didn't word things very well.

Amber Haley: Oh, interesting.

Rebekah Daniels: I use it for 

Amber Haley: Yeah. 

Rebekah Daniels: brainstorming, and then if I'm doing meal prep stuff, I use it for a lot of recipes. I actually won a second place in a chili cookoff a ChatGPT recipe. 

Amber Haley: ribbon to ChatG? You took credit for it.

Rebekah Daniels: it's back there, my little ribbon, I

took credit. Well, 

Amber Haley: You prompted it. 

Rebekah Daniels: it for a 

Amber Haley: It's,

Rebekah Daniels: I said, I want a recipe that kind of fits these different metrics. And then we use that as like a, like a jumping off point. So the recipe I did wasn't exactly what chat recommended, but it, it created that inspo. And so that's where I say, that's going to be your best use for ChatGPT is not using it to replace everything, but using it more for brainstorming and inspiration to help you your [00:34:00] ideas out, kind of refine things and get that ball moving spending all this grind time, trying to research and scan the internet.

Amber Haley: Definitely. a lot of it comes down to learning how to prompt the AI, and you do also have to be aware that it is not always accurate, when I talk about it being gender bias, what I'm kind of meaning a little bit, like, It is , for example, they have found stuff, like, a program will often translate English terms like nurse will use, a female gendered word in the other language, or, or render a doctor as a man.

Because this is the bias in AI, because this is the bias just based on historical data. That's just stuff to keep in mind. when you think about how this technology is moving so quickly. These little tiny things that we don't always, like, realize technology has picked up on that stuff, too. I do think it is something to a little bit cautious about as we experiment [00:35:00] with AI. And it's not something I hear talked about that much. I do think We should talk about it, and I do hope that people developing these programs are putting, safeguards in. I mean, think about it, We talk about stuff like this all the time, facts like, in my lifetime women were not legally protected to have the right to, take out a business loan on their own without a man. That's very recent history, and I think that we often forget that, and so how could Our society and the patriarchy not also form our AI.

Like it's not that far in the past and it's pulling everything from the past. So just something to keep in mind, the AI language programs, when they're translating it into a different country, they're translating doctor into a male term because they're like a doctor's man.

That's what we assume

for, you know, that's what it was. 

Rebekah Daniels: I would

assume, I, 

I'm sure that's basing it not only on our country and our society, but also on that country, that culture, that society, you know, for its gender bias or how it's [00:36:00] translating things.

Amber Haley: Perhaps. And on, like, an international, global level, like, there is so much gender bias. We've made a lot of progress in our country, and I think we have a lot of progress to make. But, that's definitely not the case for women all over the world. I like to point that out. I can't not do an AI episode and not point that out. And I want people to pay attention to it. So, it's just my two cents.

Rebekah Daniels: mean, you kind of bring up an interesting, a good point about the ethics that we don't always think about, but the ethics behind AI. I know there's a lot of uproar in the arts community. World about 

Amber Haley: mm hmm. 

Rebekah Daniels: AI generated art. Is that replacing artists? Is that changing things? Are we stealing other people's art or stealing other people's work? , cause it's plagiarizing work or artwork. Is this artificial intelligence conglomeration of things? , I know some people. Worry about the [00:37:00] energy usage, which I haven't done a ton. I don't know if you've heard about that, that you just use up so much electricity and like, is that sustainable? then, you know, some people think that AI is going to take over the world. And we're going to have like a Skynet Terminator situation going on, or that there are demons in artificial intelligence. I don't know if you've heard about that. 

Amber Haley: I haven't, but I will be going down that rabbit hole later. There are some, like, ethics to consider. Obviously the big one I would point out is, like, history has not given women a voice for the vast majority of it. even studies, Amazon did a study in its recruiting tools, it downgraded the word women on a resume and it favored a male candidate because it was trained on resumes submitted over the last decade, which were predominantly from men in tech. So if you were a female in tech and AI was filtering through the resumes, you were not as upgraded as the men's resume was. [00:38:00] And like. When we think about that, like, that makes sense, right? And then I already mentioned the voice assistants, like Alexa and Siri, overwhelmingly female voice, reinforcing stereotypes of women in subservient roles. There have been studies of healthcare biases when AI systems are used in hospitals, white male patients specifically getting prioritized care, with critical care decisions, even if the clinical need was the same between other people. 

Rebekah Daniels: just based off of previous, 

Amber Haley: data. Because, you know, we, you and I both know, um, 

Rebekah Daniels: the, AI would be able to come in and take out that human bias that has been happening and that they would build a prompt or something that would

say, don't look at the, The race don't look at gender, look at these qualities that actually matter, which is, well, what's your actual disease?

Like how serious is it right now? What is your, your age, or if you're looking at a job, what are your qualifications, your, [00:39:00] your 

Amber Haley: Right, I think it's a learning curve.

Rebekah Daniels: of these decisions.

Amber Haley: I think it's gonna be a learning curve for AI just like it's been a learning curve for people. Because it's truly just going off of human data. That's how it's like learning. And I'm not, again, I'm not an so like an expert could comment on this a little bit better, but I think it's gotta learn. 

Rebekah Daniels: metrics. So if you're going to

be using 

Amber Haley: Yeah. 

Rebekah Daniels: situations. The right thing to do is to program it to not go off of human bias that we've had in the past. It should be counteracting 

Amber Haley: but when the, when the data is so overwhelming, it thinks it's going off of data, not bias. So, we have to find those biases, like you're saying. That'll be interesting. I'm gonna be paying attention to future studies that come out to see if that changes. But I think it's something that will change as humanity changes, too. Yeah. so. A little food for thought there. We've talked a lot, me and you about one of the things that is frustrating to me is like, Women's healthcare is less studied than men's and their pain, like, [00:40:00] especially with, like, reproductive healthcare and stuff, is, like, not as, taken seriously or believed by doctors.

I have to imagine all of this, data, like, going into our AI systems. no wonder it's, like, spitting back stuff at us that we have programmed into it over decades and decades. So, Yeah. 

Rebekah Daniels: would be that 

Amber Haley: but 

Rebekah Daniels: to take on like, what is the most recent data as we've been learning more things? So 

you know, my 

Amber Haley: huh. actually, I should probably check it out and see what it says about the. You know, BRCA and diagnoses and all these different things, the hope would be that it would be able to go off of the most recent information instead of being like, well, we just don't, we just don't know that much.

Rebekah Daniels: We're just going off of the bad data from the past. 

Amber Haley: definitely. So you do have to like, be careful. Like even when I use it for work and I will put in different things, you know, if I'm selling a house , I have to like, go in and be like, oh, this is actually incorrect. And it does warn you usually, like, it's not always correct. 

Rebekah Daniels: Disclaimer.

Amber Haley: You have to [00:41:00] check. 

Rebekah Daniels: Yeah. 

Amber Haley: definitely have to check. There are some really cool like techniques you can use to I think put your humanity in the AI that you use. Training it to use your voice and your tone and use unique language and like prompt and prompt and prompt and tweak and prompt and I think people who Struggle with AI need to experiment a little more and dig a little bit deeper Yeah,

Rebekah Daniels: that you put in. Yeah. if you don't put a good prompt in, if you put a vague prompt in, it's just going to go off of that. It doesn't really know how to interpret what you want the way a human being would. just going off of what you very specifically asked it. So, Just like, I know some people are worried that AI is going to replace us, it's going to, especially they think that with real estate agents, you know, we talked about those tech companies that the iBuyer programs, they're able to get you [00:42:00] into a house without a real estate agent. You can even fill out a home offer on their website to buy that house, but the AI doesn't really know how to protect you. doesn't really know how to set up your inspection or how to interpret that report look for all those different things that maybe aren't listed in the contract, but that your real estate agent knows because they've had 10, 15, however many years of experience in the business and they've dealt with this or they've dealt with that specific agent. So 

Amber Haley: yeah 

Rebekah Daniels: is a tool. It's great. I love that we have it here, but We really are nowhere near the point that the human element can be disregarded. We still very much need human beings involved in every aspect of our lives. All 

Amber Haley: I have uh, the million [00:43:00] dollar question for you, Bekah. For a million dollars would you let, would you let me publicly post to your Instagram stories your ChatGPT prompts and requests and private chats?

Rebekah Daniels: of them?

Amber Haley: Every single one.

Rebekah Daniels: For a million dollars? 

Amber Haley: For a million dollars. Haha,

Rebekah Daniels: yes,

I would, 

Amber Haley: but look,

Rebekah Daniels: would, 

Amber Haley: she had to think about it, everybody. 

Rebekah Daniels: I done anything extremely like, like intimate details in there? I was like, I don't think I have. So, you 

Amber Haley: like if my Google search history ever got out, that would be the end of me. And now I kind of feel that way about Chat G. So I keep it tight with Chat G. We're friends. You know, people are afraid of the robot. I have befriended them.

Rebekah Daniels: who 

Amber Haley: I don't know.

Rebekah Daniels: the, people who own it can access all of that data. 

Amber Haley: [00:44:00] It's OpenAI. It's, it's, it's, uh, you weigh the, 

Rebekah Daniels: for 

Amber Haley: you weigh the cost and, and benefits, and it's benefited my life enough that I guess that's the chance I'm willing to take. Oh, 

Rebekah Daniels: no, you, you revealed a secret about like an embarrassing rash or something. I guess I'll just go live on an Island by myself my

million 

Amber Haley: Vaca, 

Rebekah Daniels: was 

Amber Haley: we can get that taken care of later, like, let's just, 

Rebekah Daniels: an 

Amber Haley: an AI chatbot, like, like, we don't need to bring that to the podcast, okay?

Rebekah Daniels: serious. 

Amber Haley: All right.

 I maybe in like a year we sit down and do another AI episode because it's gonna be evolved so much and I'm gonna be walking around with my AI glasses just living in the, metaverse. 

Rebekah Daniels: want to say, uh, Snapchat did that first Snapchat 

Amber Haley: but like nobody, I'm sorry.

Rebekah Daniels: first,

Amber Haley: Okay, what? 

Rebekah Daniels: like seven 

Amber Haley: What [00:45:00] generation are you? Like, nobody cares about Snapchat. We all know everything has been copied from Snapchat. Like, we don't, we don't care.

Rebekah Daniels: and Meta just caught up. So

Amber Haley: Yes, um, Bekah also is downgrading to an Android, everybody. So, we have to take what she says with a grain of salt.

Don't, we can't, we have to cut this out. We have to cut, we can't, we can't let the audience know you're walking around with an Android.

Rebekah Daniels: iPhone! 

Amber Haley: Okay.

Rebekah Daniels: teasing in

Amber Haley: has an iPhone.

Rebekah Daniels: I always have an had iPhone. I was forced into getting an iPhone.

Amber Haley: Oh wow. Okay. I think we're gonna have to wrap this up now. So on that note, please send us your best tips that you have for AI, how you use it. And also I want to know what the most embarrassing prompt you've ever given it is.

Rebekah Daniels: can send us a DM at two girls in the market on Instagram. And of course

this is always the number two, not the word two. So the number two girls 

Amber Haley: I'm [00:46:00] amberhaley. hawaii on Instagram 

Rebekah Daniels: at homes with Bekah. 

Amber Haley: I 

Probably won't answer so maybe DM back at first 

Rebekah Daniels: will, yeah, you can DM us. I handle most of our, our, uh, filtered messages, so you can talk to me and I'll tell

you, don't 

Amber Haley: But 

Rebekah Daniels: Amber.

Amber Haley: But send us a screenshot of ChatGPT roasting your dating profile your Instagram profile and your life and We'll see you on the next episode Bye.